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Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:18 AM
Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:20 AM
Im looking thru some old mags and I see Greg Hill was riding for Robinson around 87' or so. Was GHP bikes no longer around by then or was it bought out or? Whats the history with it?
I was just looking at that in nov86.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 07:15 AM
In 1992, he briefly brought GHP back while he backed away from racing a bit, however he decided to get back in full force in 93 and GHP disappeared once more.
GHP finally returned in its present day form after Greg put out a very limited run of GHP Chromoly frames with modern geometry in 2005. His current partners convinced him to build on this success and the modern-day aluminum GHP's were introduced in '07.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 07:52 AM
Posted 02 December 2008 - 10:43 AM
Nice summary, Lee. One thing... could you shed some light on the cyclepro/ghp period?
Posted 02 December 2008 - 05:57 PM
The Cycle Pro relationship I'm a little fuzzy on, but I'll take a crack at it. I've chatted with Greg about this once, but I'm still not 100% on all the info.
Cycle Pro co-sponsored the GHP team. In doing so, they were licensed to produce a line of Greg Hill signature bikes. If I recall, there were 3 models. The two I can think of right now are the "Street Legal" and the "GHP Replica". I have have an old Cycle Pro ad at home (does anyone remember the "War Room" ad?). I'll have to take a look at it later.
The GHP Replica bike's frame was designed directly from the GHP CAD drawings with the help of Greg and Mr. Hill. It is pretty much a dead on copy, although I think the head tube angle might be a bit less agressive on the Cycle Pro version. I have one of the Cycle Pro GHP Replica frames and have had numerous people stop and say -- "Cool! A GHP". The GHP replica frames were manufactured by Koizumi. I'm not sure where the other Hill models were manufactured. These other models did not bare any resemblance to GHP frames.
The Cycle Pro partnership was disolved in late 84. I'm not sure of the circumstances. I do know that by 1985, GHP started offering complete bikes. Cycle Pro's offerings were complete bikes while, at the time, GHP was only selling frames/forks and components.
Greg checks in here from time-to-time. I'll shoot him a PM over at BMXA-O to see if he can chime in to fill in the gaps and correct my mistakes.
Posted 02 December 2008 - 06:38 PM
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 12:31 AM
OK here is my best shot at the history of GHP:
July 1983 my Father and I decided to change Star Products BMX into GHP BMX and made our debut at the 1983 NBL Grand Nationals..We operated GHP until early 1986, hard times with our vendor VDC, basically Voris sold his manufacturing business and the new owner did not have clue one as to building bikes, parts just did a terrible job. We could not accept product that had been ordered and was completely wrong..It was just junk..During the middle of GHP 83-86 we entered into an agreement with West Coast Cycles (Cycle Pro) to license the name Greg Hill and GHP BMX to distribute our products. The demand that created along with not being able to get product put GHP about $200,000.00 into back orders which ultimately made us pull the plug. I then signed with Red Line as they were headed out of business (I had no idea) Linn Kasten owed Sugino a huge amount of money, he could not pay and stopped doing business until SBS stepped in and purchased the name...Good call SBS..Time went on, in 1991 I had Ken from Elf make me 100 frames and forks..I paid him 100% of the money up front and 2 months later went to pick up my product, he made the seat stays wrond, and he said we ran out of tubing for your forks so here are 100 pair of Elf forks..I was dumbfounded..OK so now we know why Elf went under...I sold the 100 frames and called it a day..In 2005 I had been getting e mail messages from a lot of people over the course of 2 years and decided to make 50 cromoly 20" and 50 cromoly 24" frames with todays spec and yesterdays stickers..I did this with my buddy Alan Worley out of Jackson Tenn...We sold out in a short period of time...I let some time go by and decided to pick up the GHP name for good and do something with it..I was working for Mike Flaherty at Atomlab and he allowed me to do a run of GHP frames, they sold within 4 weeks and I said " Mike, I'm going to go out on my own, is that cool" Mike said go for it..I approached my first partner Rick in March of 2007 and we became partners..About 5 months later we approached my buddy Trevor Reynolds and he became the 3rd partner for GHP. We rolled along doing real good and in January of 2008 I brought my friend Eduardo into GHP as it's 4th partner..It's R&G Direct Marketing LLC..DBA GHP BMX our goal is to become a full blown bicycle company by January 2011 and were on our way..
Hope that clears up the GHP history, thanks for asking and being interested...
You guy's all have a wonderful holiday season..BMX for life whooooo
Posted 03 December 2008 - 12:41 AM
Thanks for the clarity.
Very interesting... and good luck with everything!
I just got a set of GHP Bars from Lee. and I love them.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:11 AM
reading back through the BMXA interview when you signed to Redline after GHP... you were asked about the future of GHP and you said it would carry on as a separate company in it's own right. Just because you were riding for Redline now didn't mean GHP wouldn't keep going.
I guess that was being 'sensitive' to the situation at the time - lol.
It is cool that the early GHP stuff was VDC made (when Voris was still there).
Edited by AndyDiamond, 03 December 2008 - 01:11 AM.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:17 AM
Thanks Greg for da inside scoop!!!,
Posted 03 December 2008 - 02:27 AM
Posted 03 December 2008 - 02:48 AM
I think you have explained to me why there are some 85 frames out there that have less then the usual GHP / Voris traits for build quality. They are the ones with the serial number on the bottom bracket instead of the rear dropout. The quality of those late 85 frames was really bad - they werent straight and true, and the welds were really iffy.
Thanks Greg - thats filled in a gap in my knowledge.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 03:13 AM
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 05:55 AM
I apologize for the quality. I thought I had this in an actual mag, but I didn't. I pulled this from a PDF.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 06:25 AM
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