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#1 chromey Posted 21 October 2008 - 04:38 AM

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I always liked the look of them,

And would it be blaspheomous to put them on an 81-82 Torker MX?
.... for real.

(I know I'm going to build it up my own way)... but I just wanted to see if these were in the ball park era-wise. I'm not a HUGE stickler for Era correctness / as opposed to over all look. But it's important to me that they're at least close..... If they're 3 years off the mark, i don't think I'd use them.

Looking to do a cool Skate-park version of the Torker.. but I'm not a fan of HUGE tall bars... and not really a fan of bars with tons of grip-sweep (Race Inc.. etc).

It's a shame because I'd love to use Race Inc bars.. but the grip angle really bugs me.

Any info or advice would be much appreciated :)

~chromey

#2 lboorse2 Posted 21 October 2008 - 05:28 AM

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I always thought the FredZ bars were a later 80's (Late old-school/early mid-school) creation. I could be wrong as I don't remember them at all BITD and I stopped paying attention around 87 or so... maybe that's why I thought that.

Anyway -- why not shoot for an early GT (or maybe Hutch?) expert bar. There weren't too many other bars out there that early without a ton of sweep.

You can always grab those Race Inc's and do a "home flattening" to them... :)
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#3 chromey Posted 21 October 2008 - 06:39 AM

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I always thought the FredZ bars were a later 80's (Late old-school/early mid-school) creation. I could be wrong as I don't remember them at all BITD and I stopped paying attention around 87 or so... maybe that's why I thought that.

Anyway -- why not shoot for an early GT (or maybe Hutch?) expert bar. There weren't too many other bars out there that early without a ton of sweep.

You can always grab those Race Inc's and do a "home flattening" to them... :)



I always thought the same thing about the FredZ bars.. I thought they came out in or around 87 or so.. then continued thru Midschool... but over the past day or two I've seen pics of Two different 82-83 GT Pros with FZ bars.. and it got me curious.

I'm starting to think my fuzzy memory and instincts were right.. the bars are Way too new for the ol' Torker.
:)

That's fine...

Lee, I actually had the thought about flattening some Race In bars.. but I feel like Aluminum wouldn't bend tat nicely.. and I'd most definitely tweak the skinny crossbar... Good thought though... haha.

I don't know.. I'm pretty picky about bars...
and I guess I'm looking for some "radically tasteful" (yes I said it).... small-ish looking race / freestyle bar for this bike.

IDEALLY - I'd like to use Redline Forklifters.. but i feel like they're too new as well.

I like the look of Smaller SE / PK Ripper or Quad bars, but those are something I'd ideally like to buy in person... Pics of handle bars can be so deceiving to view on screen when determining scale and proportion (especially with Race bars...).

#4 BMXROB Posted 21 October 2008 - 08:13 AM

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FredZ bars are MID SCHOOL YOU ARENT EVEN SUPPOSE TO BE POSTING QUESTIONS ABOUT MID SCHOOL STUFF IN THIS SECTION DUDE YOUR BREAKING THE RULES just kidding but I do beleive they were first created in the mid to late 80s. I do know that Cyclecraft was around for years before their peak in the late 80s so its possible they started earlier.

But for your rider? Use whatever the hell works I say. My rider sure looks old school to the untrained eye but its a bit of every school, even a lil from the new (bars).
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#5 Da-G-Ryd Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:32 AM

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I ran a pair on my '89 holmes, which I bought brand new from da Bicycle Source back in early '88.

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#6 choad666 Posted 21 October 2008 - 10:10 AM

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Powerlite expert bars would also be a good choice.

#7 3rdgear Posted 21 October 2008 - 04:28 PM

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I have a pair on my late 84 CC, but I am sure they were not that early, maybe 86.

#8 chromey Posted 21 October 2008 - 06:44 PM

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I have a pair on my late 84 CC, but I am sure they were not that early, maybe 86.


Thanks for the reply.
Yeah I pretty much first saw them in 87.
So 86 Makes sense. and if this Bike was a Cycle Craft. i'd definitely put them on... they were the "Trademark bar for CC".

:)

Powerlite expert bars would also be a good choice.


I thought about Powerlites too. Some of them have a great look to them.
I know Mike Dominguez used Powerlites on one of his Torkers in the skaetparks around 81-82... I just need to find myself the right set of PL's.

I Used to have a Pro Bend PL bar.. but it definitely had a tall GT look to it. In the little research I've done, the 1st series Powerbend bars were a nice smaller/expert size. Does anyone know if the early PL bars were All Alloy? or if some were CroMo too?

#9 choad666 Posted 22 October 2008 - 11:44 AM

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I've got a set of the early alloy ones. I also have a set of chrome ones but I think they are early 90's.

#10 thumperpilot Posted 22 October 2008 - 05:18 PM

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I just talked to the guy that bought out Cyclecraft this past weeeknd at our event at Disney Wolrd in FLA. Nice guy. He's 41 and use to race for them BITD. He got a ton of old stock and has been selling some of the stuff on ebay. Greg Esser is building their new frames that should be out real soon. He's planning on bringing the FREDZ bars and FORKs back into the mix. Just thought it might be a point of interest since you were talking about the company.
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#11 BMXROB Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:28 PM

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This stuff gonna be old stock T/A type reissue parts and frames or Retro?

#12 Spur Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:33 PM

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I asked a million times on another site about the bars and they would not answer, I imagine they will be exact duplicates. I would hope they are doing the right thing and making them distiguishable from the old bars. They have said the framesets will be threadless with canti mounts.

#13 BMXROB Posted 22 October 2008 - 06:35 PM

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That should piss off a few less people (threadless w/cantis).

#14 lboorse2 Posted 16 August 2009 - 05:29 PM

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Bumping back up. Picked up a set of bars yesterday and need to know how early they were used. Can anyone hammer down a definitive date? Anyone have any early Cyclecraft ads?
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#15 Just..Me..Chillin' Posted 17 August 2009 - 07:43 AM

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the fredz bars were def later --- 86/7 --- i was gonna bring up the fact they have allot of stock being off'd these days on ebay, i had read the Martino's were re-releasing the line.

but Shannon's info seems to be recent - so i guess its old leftover stock then ? because i had heard they were making it the stuff again, so it wouldn't necessarily be old stock ... but i honestly don't know for sure, Hey Shan non can you confirm its old stock ?
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#16 lboorse2 Posted 17 August 2009 - 08:17 AM

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I heard they were going to re-run these as well. Not sure if they'll be any markings to differenciate. So definitely later than 85 then? Thanks Marcos.
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#17 r-reekie Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:09 PM

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The new bars are knurled so they are easy to tell new from old.

#18 Nbl 49a Posted 18 August 2009 - 10:02 AM

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Yes they are knurled. Also It's also not the Martino's making them. It's the new owners after Shag.

Stephen

#19 antdog Posted 09 September 2009 - 05:49 PM

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